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  • #16
    Regardless of WHERE things are and what they are, wouldn't you expect that the ring is meant to solve all those issues? Goes though, who cares? A tec bar is a brand specific name, and as such, won't be mentioned in the rules.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by bimble View Post
      If I remember, when they brought out the Ion X, it was mentioned that it wouldn't be useable in BB competition because it didn't fit the 12.2cm ring. A quick scan through some photos from the WA field champs doesn't show any Hoyt tec risers being used for BB, but there is the Greenhorn (I think) that has a forward tec bar.
      I read that the Sirius is actually not BB legal out of the box, but a very slight skim off the heel of the grip fixes it. post was a few years old. the Hoyts are not even close.
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      • #18
        Its just that I have a Hoyt Game Master 2, the Tec bar section measures 12cm exact, but still being told its illegal to be used as BB

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Magehunter View Post
          Its just that I have a Hoyt Game Master 2, the Tec bar section measures 12cm exact, but still being told its illegal to be used as BB
          By whom?? and more importantly, why. Cause it might be something else. Also note, just because something is 12cm front-to-back, doesn't mean it'll fit through a 12.2cm ring as width would also come into the fit.

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          • #20
            here is the relevant part of the rules: http://www.archery.org.au/About-Arch...arebow-Recurve

            two important excerpts -

            (1) Risers including a brace are permitted provided the brace does not consistently touch the athlete’ s hand or wrist and is capable of passing through a hole or ring of 12.2cm inside diameter ± 0.5mm

            (2) Remember, the unstrung bow complete with permitted accessories must be able to pass through a hole or ring of 12.2cm inside diameter ± 0.5mm

            I've read in other times and places comments about braced risers being illegal, but I cannot see where in the rules this is so. in fact, the first point specifically allows it.
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            • #21
              It will fit the ring, the bar itself is round,
              Reason was the Tec Bar can be used as an aim device...
              But there is nowhere in the FITA rule book relating Tec bar to aiming, even if someone could use it to aim, it will a lousy aim sight focusing on the Tec bar

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              • #22
                see, I've heard of markings on a bow, usually on W&W's, that need to be covered up so they can't be used for ranging unmarked targets. But that's normally solved with a piece of tape. Not heard of the complaint that a tec bar can be used for aiming...

                If I were you, I'd print out the above mentioned bit of the WA rule book that allow braced risers (assuming this is for a WA shoot) and if the judge complains in the equipment inspection point out that the rules state, braced bows are allowed. When in doubt, make the judges show you in the rules where it says it's not allowed. They're supposed to have their rule books with them.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Magehunter View Post
                  It will fit the ring, the bar itself is round,
                  Reason was the Tec Bar can be used as an aim device...
                  But there is nowhere in the FITA rule book relating Tec bar to aiming, even if someone could use it to aim, it will a lousy aim sight focusing on the Tec bar
                  Your best bet is to ask how this can be demonstrated. Sounds like someone is quite clueless.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Magehunter View Post
                    Reason was the Tec Bar can be used as an aim device...
                    again, to go back to the rules:

                    - Risers including a brace are permitted
                    - The bow as described above must be bare, except for the arrow rest, and free from protrusions, sight marks, marks or blemishes or laminated pieces (within the bow window area) which could be of use in aiming.

                    I can see someone objecting to a Hoyt-style swirled colour finish where you might be able to pick a point to use as a sight mark (interestingly, the Australian barebow compound rules specifically allow multicoloured risers) but unless someone can point to a mark, blemish, scratch etc on the TEC bar then I'd ask them again to point to precisely what rule is being contravened.

                    this is of course assuming you have the black riser, if you have the camo one then you would need to be prepared to tape everything in the line of sight.
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                    • #25
                      It won't fit through the ring. Make a ring and test it.


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                      • #26
                        ran onto one at the club this afternoon and put a tape measure on it. to the eye it's 120mm back to belly at the widest point. no way it will fit 122mm by the time you consider girth.
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